Week 8: Math and Poetry


Artist Interview: JoAnne Growney

Sarah Glaz

This week’s reading genuinely moved me in a way I didn’t expect. I felt a heaviness reading it, partly because I haven’t had much time to read anything outside academic writing lately. The interview felt intimate and alive. It also pulled me back to my own relationship with writing, especially poetry. I grew up in a household with constant argument and loud noise, and poetry became a kind of quiet shelter for me, a place where I could breathe.

One thing I kept thinking about is JoAnne’s long gap in writing. She describes not writing poetry for decades and then returning to it later, around the time her children left home. Even though she downplays parental influence at points, I found myself wondering about the role of life circumstances, timing, and emotional bandwidth. She returned to poetry when she had space again. That made me reflect on my own pause. I stopped writing a few years ago too, and it makes me wonder if writing comes in seasons: not as a personality trait, but as a response to what life allows.

Stop 1
When JoAnne talks about her flamboyant woman math teacher, she says many girls started a math major but “most didn’t stay in math”. That line hit me like a small sentence carrying a big pattern. It immediately made me think about the “leaky pipeline” in STEM: how interest can be sparked, but belonging is harder to sustain. I liked that this observation came through a personal memory, not a statistic. It reminded me that attrition is often a story before it is a graph.

Stop 2
My second stop was the moment JoAnne reflects that a man with talented daughters is more likely to support women, and then she shares the story about the granddaughter in China finding the poem online and reaching out. I paused here because it held both a critique and a tenderness. On one hand, it’s unsettling that women’s support is framed as more likely when men are personally connected to girls. On the other hand, the “sweet connection” across generations and geography felt genuinely hopeful. A poem became a bridge: between a teacher, his family, and someone searching for a name years later.

Overall, this interview reminded me that math lives inside human lives. Not just in achievements or degrees, but in teachers we remember, in who stays and who leaves, and in the strange, beautiful ways “everything connects”.

Also sharing a random poem I wrote a long time back: 

Sushmita Roy (Sushi)
Response Jackie Will’s “DON’T COMMIT ADULTERY”
27 th September 2016

DON’T COMMIT MURDER
In Honduras for cocaine, in daylight, in the crowd,
With stolen guns, bare hands, belts, gasoline, of the woman
Who dressed improperly, dyed her hair red, wore a choker,
Revolted against rape, worked at a bar, of men fighting

against discrimination, religion, defending families, nations,
politicians, by matches, hammers, golf sticks, and knives,
of blacks, immigrants, Jews, Muslims, Christians, Hindus,
those who know no religion, at the border, in the rain, bedroom

where you caught your wife having sex, broken building, graveyard,
latched room, for being humiliated, in anger or in pain, another with
more money, ex who moved on too quickly, for sex,
or for fun, for the excitement, the chase and run, by skinning alive,

burning, cutting head off straight, rope, strangling, of who didn’t surrender,
to lust, dominion, authority and power, at the backseat of the car,
isolated street, as meat, for theft, robbery, satisfaction, mercy,
argument’s sake, destroyed ego, obsession,

in El Salvador, for not having enough to eat, crushed by the State,
destroyed by neighbors, consumed by drugs, alcohol or law, of police,
child laborers, grandmothers and fathers, pregnant woman, bombing planes,
shopping malls, temples, mosques, times square, water, or terrain.

Comments

  1. Hi Sushi,
    It was great to hear your thoughts. I must say, I really related to what you said about writing having a season. JoAnne Growney’s long gap in poetry shows that creativity doesn’t disappear, but because life had simply become too busy, and she had found the time to return to it. I think that is very relevant.
    Your first stop, “most didn’t stay in math,” was another interesting one. I love how short this one was, yet how big the message was. It was a reminder that not everyone who starts math actually feels like they belong. I liked how this was related to the writer personally, not necessarily to any statistics.
    Your second location about the granddaughter finding the poem years later was beautiful. It was a reminder of the way ideas, like poems, can move through time and space. It was also a reminder that math does not exist in a vacuum, separate from the rest of life, but rather in relationships, memories, and connections between people. And I just want to say your poem is very powerful. It carries strong emotion and shows courage in speaking about difficult realities. Thank you for sharing it.

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  3. Thank you, Sushi.
    I really appreciate the way you described that moment in the interview, the idea that interest can be sparked, but belonging is harder to sustain resonates with me deeply. I felt that line very personally. When you connected it to the leaky pipeline in STEM, it immediately brought me back to my own experience entering university as a physics major. I chose physics because I genuinely loved it; high school physics felt intuitive, elegant, even fun. But when I got to university, everything shifted. The subject suddenly became abstract, formal, and removed from the sense of wonder that drew me in.
    I remember feeling overwhelmed and, honestly, alienated. It wasn’t that I lost interest — it was that the environment became more exclusive, more gatekeeping, less of a space where curiosity or connection felt welcome. Your reflection helped me name that: the difference between liking a subject and feeling like you belong in it. I can easily imagine how many students move through these transitions — from excitement to doubt — especially when academic systems don’t make room for emotion, identity, or personal meaning.
    And about your poem, I’m really glad you shared it. Even though it’s not “about mathematics,” it holds a kind of structural intensity and rhythm that feels almost mathematical in its layering of images and repetitions. It’s powerful to keep pieces like this, especially when they mark a past version of ourselves.

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  4. Thanks very much, everyone — and especially Sushi for sharing this powerful poem.

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